[OT] Get bandwidth. (Was: Linux web server?)

Greg Daly gdaly at u.washington.edu
Tue May 16 12:23:34 PDT 2000

I checked out co-lo with wolfenet once - it was _way_ expensive -
using dsl at home would be only a fraction of that cost.

Today at 12:06pm, Christopher Twigg sent this nugget of wisdom:

|Co-location can get pretty expensive, though, since you're paying for both

|the bandwidth _and_ the real estate, and the real estate in one of the

|larger ISPs can be some of the most expensive real estate you'll ever pay

|for. What you get with co-lo is near-guaranteed uptimes, since they'll

|provide backup power and all the good stuff.


|Colocation with a smaller ISP, though, might be somewhat reasonable and is

|probably worth looking into. Since I think bandwidth rates from the ISP

|are going to be pretty much flat, the main question is where the cost for

|the floor space becomes cheaper than the cost for the line (T1s are

|mileage sensitive, etc.). Call around, I guess.


|Christopher Twigg

|cdtwigg at u.washington.edu


|On Tue, 16 May 2000, William Rowden wrote:


|> I'll contribute to topic drift:


|> Today, Christopher Twigg wrote:

|> [snip good cost estimates]

|> > You could also get space with a professional hosting company if

|> > you're just looking for space and bandwidth and don't need the

|> > kind of fine control that running your own server gives you.


|> If one wanted to actually run the server, however, another

|> alternative is co-location with an ISP. This provides the advantage

|> of high bandwidth while permitting remote administration of (and

|> occasional on-site access to) one's own box. Obviously, one would

|> want Linux for this, to avoid having to pay to continually reboot a

|> machine with another (unnamed) operating system. ;-)


|> > Most cable companies aren't going to let you run your own

|> > server;


|> For example, @home discourages this.


|> > DSL providers are more lenient, and might even sell you a

|> > 'business' DSL connection that would encourage this sort of

|> > thing


|> In many locations across the country, both Speakeasy and Eskimo

|> North offer guaranteed bandwidth connections in cooperation with

|> Covad, even for their "consumer" connections (which are cheaper than

|> "business" connections, but of course most of the "consumer"

|> bandwidth is for download rather than upload). They're also

|> familiar with *nix operating systems, and even have shell accounts.

|> (I'm not paid to say this.)


|> > ISPs are counting on consumers to not _use_ all that bandwidth

|> > and so they'll typically overload the hell out of their lines.


|> I think that's true in most cases.

|> --

|> -William

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