[linux] Support for OSes with programs

youshi10 at u.washington.edu youshi10 at u.washington.edu
Sun Dec 12 12:26:50 PST 2004

My issues were that I:

1) Realized that I was still using devfs and udev was available and becoming more supported (when I last installed Gentoo this fall the devfs part in the faq was still there).
2) My current Reiserfs is doing funky stuff with my root drive and due to possibly poor programming in mplayer, one of my NFS hosts being killed by not unmounted on my local machine (I know; that was my fault >.<), I had to unplug my machine, and lovely things started happening. The issue is that now every time before I recompiled my kernel (since the udev didn't work properly after my last restart), after I would log out of X it would give me what some users term as "hard crashing" or something like that where my ttys would freeze, and ssh'ing into my box was not possible, etc.
3) The portage system as of late has been less than to be desired. I don't know if you've reinstalled Gentoo from Stage 1 or 2 lately, but the 2004.3 profiles have been SERIOUSLY screwed up and I've had to compile binaries of ebuilds, then scp them over from one box to the next, and rerun the emerge. Ideally Gentoo is a wonderful system, but I think that the fact that it's partly too bleeding edge, many ebuild maintainers and users run into issues with software and hardware support and hence the enormity of the Gentoo forums 0_0. The last part is just my opinion though.


PS I had (before my main desktop broke) Gentoo running on 3 systems-1 P4 2.4 ghz, 1 xbox, and 1 P2. I just chose not to "taint" my Celeron by keeping Windows 2k server/FC1 on it just in case I had issues with my Gentoo boxes =).

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Dejan Nikic wrote:

> What's the issues with Gentoo you've been having? I run 5 Gentoo boxes

> at home and no problems. Every once in a while something happens but

> it's usually resolved quickly.


> On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 11:33 -0800, Michal wrote:

>> I'm sure you implied it, but I'll just conveniently assume you arn't

>> being specific to Linux :)


>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:11:32 -0800, Garrett Cooper

>> <youshi10 at u.washington.edu> wrote:


>>> Just wondering what the support's looking like (mostly how recent are

>>> the available versions) for some of the binary distributions (Slackware,

>>> Debian Sarge, NOT Redhat, Fedora, or Mandrake though) in terms of supporting

>>> Gaim, Firefox, Xorg, KDE/Gnome/XFCE, mplayer, and xmms. I'm just having a

>>> lot of random issues with Gentoo as of late and wanted to see what other

>>> available options there were other than going back to Windows.


>> I've got FreeBSD 5.3 running with xorg, gaim, firefox, gnome, mplayer

>> and xmms just fine. I've installed all of these from the binary

>> tarballs ('pkg_add -r packagename'), but had to recompile xmms from

>> the ports to support oggvorbis files. Things are stable and usable.


>> You can see which packages have been pre-compiled for i386 here:


>> ftp://ftp6.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/


>> (If the latest version isn't precompiled, browse thru the

>> www.freebsd.org/ports/ and it can be compiled from source.)


>> The only serious technical drawback to FreeBSD is the lack of a "true"

>> journaling filesystem. You get "softupdates" instead, which hasn't

>> been a problem for me since I started using it in 2000.


>> -Michal



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